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Multi-source measurement and AI-driven search, with Nick Wedewer of Hims & Hers
Hims & Hers growth VP Nick Wedewer explains how he combines click data, MMM and lift tests, and how the brand is getting ready for agentic, LLM-driven search.
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No single data source can be trusted to measure performance any more, and AI assistants are changing how people find products. Nick Wedewer, VP of Growth Marketing at Hims & Hers and formerly at Lyft, tells impact.com's Partnership Economy Podcast how his team measures results and prepares for agentic search.
In this episode
Wedewer says one form of measurement just isn't enough; he triangulates click data, marketing mix modelling and lift or incrementality tests (4:08, 5:19).
Without user-level data, tests have to be bigger bets: a 1% channel increase won't show up, so he might raise a channel 20% for two or three weeks in certain geographies (9:49, 9:58).
Hims & Hers creators who speak about treatment must say honestly whether they have taken it, and many of the best creator programmes are built on real customers (18:46, 18:58).
Brands will need to track how they index in LLMs for long-tail questions; the team is testing ads alongside agentic search with partners, to learn what works rather than to drive volume (21:50, 23:17).
He expects AI to automate much execution work, so team members who are 75% execution will change and every marketer becomes part creative strategist (27:33, 28:35).
Long-form content and creators now offer clear conversion and revenue opportunity, he says, something he thinks AI won't replicate, and LLMs also draw on creator content (30:58, 31:26, 31:41).
Episode from The Partnership Economy Podcast by impact.com, published on YouTube.